Mark O Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 To all members, The committee have been looking at the question of a new design for club kit. At this point we have arrived at a short list of options, - a handful of new designs including a freshening up of the current kit. The committe are well aware that it is not possible to meet the sartorial preferences of all members but are of the view that members should still be afforded that chance to have their say on how the kit looks. To allow all club members an input in selecting the look of club kit for the foreseeable future we are having an open evening at the clubrooms on Friday 31st January 7.30 pm - 9.00 pm, at allow you all to view the proposals, comment and nonimate your favourite, by way of secret ballot. While we do value member input we recognise the need to come to a decision and act on it with a view to having new kit available by the spring. The open evening will be the only opportunity to look at the proposed designs comment and vote on them. This is your chance to influence matters. Based on the outcome of the ballot the committee aim to make a final decision in early February with the result being notified to members thereafter. Hope to see you all then GreigS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just a thought as I might be driving to Durham that Friday night. Would it be possible to put a photo or diagram of the options and take a vote over the forum? Thanks to those who have put this together duncan thomson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Paul I'll pm you re this Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions duncan thomson Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just a thought as I might be driving to Durham that Friday night. Would it be possible to put a photo or diagram of the options and take a vote over the forum? Thanks to those who have put this together me too, I am in Edinburgh duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyS Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Me too please, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions martin Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Will make every effort to get along on the 31st. Knowing that we have the option of design services from the new preferred supplier of club kit, can I ask if any of the designs we are being asked to to vote on have been created using their input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Gummers Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm in Inverness but a pm would be very fine if poss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions BoydJohnston Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm at a night out that night, but I'm happy to go along with the majority. Thanks to all the people who have made the effort to get us to where we are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Mul the designs we came up with are mainly from Jane & Chung with a bit of input from the committee the new supplier design input will be put to use when we have a majority of what were going to use and let them fine tune our design so that it fits our needs if i'm wrong someone will correct me Greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions martin Posted January 18, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Mul the designs we came up with are mainly from Jane & Chung with a bit of input from the committee the new supplier design input will be put to use when we have a majority of what were going to use and let them fine tune our design so that it fits our needs if i'm wrong someone will correct me Greig Grieg, with respect to the hard work done by various people to get us to this stage, i would prefer to have a Pactimo design included among those we will vote on. Professional designers, working for the company that will print, cut and produce the kit, are likely to have ideas we won't have thought of and which will suit their production techniques and limitations. Hence I woul like to see their input into the process. If we're paying for it, we should consider it as one of the options. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Mul, We could have an off the peg design from the generic Patimo 'stable' but would again have to seek a consensus from the membership. That said whatever we do Pactimo would be lookng for a degree of design input from the club. What they will do is take our chosen template, let's be clear here that is what we are deciding on in the next few weeks and then bring the design expertise to the basic design to ensure it works with their production techniques, fabric and garment patterns. We get a full 5 hours of this for free as part of the process. In my opinion it is a better use of those 5 hours tweaking a broad design concept which the members have had their say on rather than spending it coming up with a design which then has to go to the members' comment/vote before you can start fine tuning. There is always the chance that a Pactimo inspired design gets the thumbs down and you're back to square on. Rest assured we will benefit from professional design input. I imagine there will be tweaks and changes to the basic design opted for by the members. I hope this allays your or anyone elses reservations. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted January 20, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I wont be able to make it on Friday so if there is a PM going around can i have it too please Incidentally there was a small article on pactimo on bikeradar a couple of days ago: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/pactimo-custom-clothing-just-in-39573/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Won't be attending have something on Mark Mul does have a point generally you can give these companies basic colours and ask them to come up with a design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted January 20, 2014 Life Members Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Speaking from a designers point of view, the process of a design consist of 2 phase - the first is the concept (idea) & then the detail design process (the fine tuning). One is just as important as the other! The evening in question allow us to choose the "Concept" so that we can (as Mark said) get Pactimo to fine tune that concept to make it more visually pleasing & technically feasible based on our requirement/their technical expertise! Hopefully that "free 5 hour design time" would be sufficient enough to do so. If on the other hand, you want Pactimo to come up with a "design" just based on our required colours, then as Mark said we might end up with something we don't like or want. Therefore that free design time is wasted and were back to square 1. Now, if you said - right, it doesn't matter if we have to pay for "extra design" time for Pactimo, just get them to come up with a design(s) that we're (as a club) happy with. Then, yes go ahead! But we'll be paying for design time we might not benefit from. This "elimination" procedure would help us to make the design process more efficient in terms of cost & hopefully time. Thanks for reading Chung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al yuille Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks for all the effort Chung, Marco et al. Let's not get sidetracked. Roll on the new kit- my pro vision top is getting threadbare ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted January 21, 2014 Life Members Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks for all the effort Chung, Marco et al. Let's not get sidetracked. Roll on the new kit- my pro vision top is getting threadbare ! Just like to add that Jane F (JWCC member & wife of Graham F) put in a lot of expertise & effort into getting this process thus far. Also not forgetting all the committee members as well! Al, with your model figure you'll look good in anything :-) Hope you're enjoying yourself as usual down under! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Guys/Girls This is growing arms and legs (no pun intended). We have gone down a certain road regards the process of the design of the club kit after what seem to be an eternity just getting to this stage. I, therefore, see no point in diverging from that path at this juncture. The time for talking about talking about kit design is past and it is time to take some action, otherwise we'll never make any progress. Mul's point regards professional design input is valid. It has been addressed. Jane has a degree of knowledge and expertise in this area which we have utilised to great effect in my opinion based on what I have seen produced. We will have professional input to the final design for the suppliers. Please see Chung's very clear explanation of the process. As decided by the committee there will be no on forum viewing or voting on the designs - this is a private, in house matter for members and not for general public consumption. Sorry if this puts individual out we cannot meet every single person's individual requirements. The intention is not to be difficult or prissy about this but I am being firm on this point in order to keep matters progressing. I have the beginning of April in my sights as a target date for new kit being delivered, not ordered. Friday 31st is the only opportunity to view and vote on the proposed designs unless the committee direct me otherwise. Apologies if this does not suit the entirity of the body of the kirk. M al yuille and Darryl Gunson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions charlie p Posted January 21, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Well done mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wise words. See you on 31st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I cannot make Frday so PM for me, please. An idea.... since the club will be open Sunday for reliability run and there is usually good turnout how about keeping the kit designs there till then? Jannza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted January 30, 2014 Committee Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Do we get a onesie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted January 30, 2014 Committee Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'd buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneF Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Fitted onesie designs will be on show. Duel purpose onesies can be worn around the house but others may be happy to wear them to race in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted January 30, 2014 Committee Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 thinking more of a baggy MTB style onesie rather than racefit. Sorry to hijack, I'll start a new thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions martin Posted January 31, 2014 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Sorry, but due to work and family I now can't make it along tomorrow. Can I also be pm'd the designs please? M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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