Mark O

Well that was interesting. Charlie McCusker has stolen my climbing legs - looking good you auld dog. The Wednesday morning sessions clearly doing you some good. Cheers to all who drafted me up the ramps.
Horrible head wind back to Carmunnock. Legs spent after 60 miles. Hope to be out next week - aiming for 65. 
M

Headsets, hubs and bike building/restoration in 6 easy technicolour installments by Chung - 'nuff said.
In all seriousness, you could start at the front end and simply work your way along the bike covering all elements as you go, from setting up bars and stems, right down to the likes of replacing brake pads, cable routing and redoing bar tape. I think it would be fair to assume that for some this might seem unnecessary but to others it might be a case of answering questions they are too afraid to ask or in some cases don't even know to ask. As a suggestion, a donor bike could be used and completely stripped and rebuilt. I have a 'retired' manky steel frame (quill stem for the purists) with some parts still attached which I'd be happy to donate as a start. There might even be obsolete bikes in the container that could be used to let people get hands on with the freedom of getting it wrong. Monkey see/monkey do style seminars with plenty of practice and tips along the way perhaps? 

Headsets, hubs and bike building/restoration in 6 easy technicolour installments by Chung - 'nuff said.
In all seriousness, you could start at the front end and simply work your way along the bike covering all elements as you go, from setting up bars and stems, right down to the likes of replacing brake pads, cable routing and redoing bar tape. I think it would be fair to assume that for some this might seem unnecessary but to others it might be a case of answering questions they are too afraid to ask or in some cases don't even know to ask. As a suggestion, a donor bike could be used and completely stripped and rebuilt. I have a 'retired' manky steel frame (quill stem for the purists) with some parts still attached which I'd be happy to donate as a start. There might even be obsolete bikes in the container that could be used to let people get hands on with the freedom of getting it wrong. Monkey see/monkey do style seminars with plenty of practice and tips along the way perhaps? 

Headsets, hubs and bike building/restoration in 6 easy technicolour installments by Chung - 'nuff said.
In all seriousness, you could start at the front end and simply work your way along the bike covering all elements as you go, from setting up bars and stems, right down to the likes of replacing brake pads, cable routing and redoing bar tape. I think it would be fair to assume that for some this might seem unnecessary but to others it might be a case of answering questions they are too afraid to ask or in some cases don't even know to ask. As a suggestion, a donor bike could be used and completely stripped and rebuilt. I have a 'retired' manky steel frame (quill stem for the purists) with some parts still attached which I'd be happy to donate as a start. There might even be obsolete bikes in the container that could be used to let people get hands on with the freedom of getting it wrong. Monkey see/monkey do style seminars with plenty of practice and tips along the way perhaps? 

Headsets, hubs and bike building/restoration in 6 easy technicolour installments by Chung - 'nuff said.
In all seriousness, you could start at the front end and simply work your way along the bike covering all elements as you go, from setting up bars and stems, right down to the likes of replacing brake pads, cable routing and redoing bar tape. I think it would be fair to assume that for some this might seem unnecessary but to others it might be a case of answering questions they are too afraid to ask or in some cases don't even know to ask. As a suggestion, a donor bike could be used and completely stripped and rebuilt. I have a 'retired' manky steel frame (quill stem for the purists) with some parts still attached which I'd be happy to donate as a start. There might even be obsolete bikes in the container that could be used to let people get hands on with the freedom of getting it wrong. Monkey see/monkey do style seminars with plenty of practice and tips along the way perhaps? 

No probs re finish Charlie. I'd have thought the slightly revised route more direct into Barrhead, Paisley and beyond. If Neilston is preferable then all fine with me, we can leave as was. 

As Alan says - Bowfield, Lugton, Dunlop, Stewarton. Then onto Kilmaurs, Knockintiber,  Crosshouse, Gatehouse, Dundonald, Barassie Troon (cafe of choice). Return via Loans and the reverse of the outward route to Kilmaurs then a sortie out towards Fenwick (I'll bale out here) and then onto Stewarton, Dunlop, Luggie and Bowfield. A variant would be to head for Stewarton then take a right at the cross, up Glasgow Road/Dubbs Road and follow the sewing bee route back. 
I'm guessing 65 miles. Turns will no doubt be shouted out as we get to them.

As Alan says - Bowfield, Lugton, Dunlop, Stewarton. Then onto Kilmaurs, Knockintiber,  Crosshouse, Gatehouse, Dundonald, Barassie Troon (cafe of choice). Return via Loans and the reverse of the outward route to Kilmaurs then a sortie out towards Fenwick (I'll bale out here) and then onto Stewarton, Dunlop, Luggie and Bowfield. A variant would be to head for Stewarton then take a right at the cross, up Glasgow Road/Dubbs Road and follow the sewing bee route back. 
I'm guessing 65 miles. Turns will no doubt be shouted out as we get to them.

Morning M'Lud
I hope all is well with you
Still in March - muddies still on and the not so Skinny One out of hibernation early. Me thinks main bunch pace as far as a definition can be pinned onto that moving target. Not bogs bunch pace but neither intermediate pace - same pace as Sunday last, I guess if that was main bunch pace. I'll hang in until I go pop, then scuttle home. I think you can read 'lazy' as being 'not as long a distance as the Flanders bound chaps'. 
I'll be looking for a wheel to drag me around the Sewing Bee from next month, how's your diary looking? Got a stone to lose and 2 mph to find. Just think, you'll be able to give me a kicking all the way up the Bowfield and from Stewarton to the turn for home. What's not to like.

I'm guessing the Flanders bound chaps will be doing another monster route at the weekend. For those not heading for the Classics I'm going to propose a jaunt down to Troon. 
Usual route and cafe stops and an 09.30 start.  Post up if you fancy it.
 

Might show for this but bale at Largs, head up the Haylie and pootle back to Miller Street. Seriously lacking consistent miles in the legs. 09.30 is very civilised.

Might show for this but bale at Largs, head up the Haylie and pootle back to Miller Street. Seriously lacking consistent miles in the legs. 09.30 is very civilised.

Just observed the 'better weather' George booked for this weekend - MET Office  have issued a yellow snow warning for all day Saturday for much of Scotland, although Argyll seems not to be affected. Always good to avoid yellow snow me thinks, wherever you are.
PS if anyone finds my cycling mojo, please tell it to come home

Just observed the 'better weather' George booked for this weekend - MET Office  have issued a yellow snow warning for all day Saturday for much of Scotland, although Argyll seems not to be affected. Always good to avoid yellow snow me thinks, wherever you are.
PS if anyone finds my cycling mojo, please tell it to come home

Money would be better spent on education of all road users. Cyclist ARE traffic and should treated as such both in terms of their ability/entitlement to use public roads and their responsibilities in using said roads. Dedicated cycle lanes just muddy the waters as to the comprehension of 'rights' and responsibilities of road users when the dedicated lane ends. 
Cyclists as a road user group should not be cowed onto cycle lanes until there is equal provision of road space if that is the line this debate is going down.
There are sufficient rules in place to protect all road users, they just need a rise in awareness and greater application thereof, allied with actual imposition of penalties when broken. Same education process and threat of prosecution as deployed in making seatbelts compulsory. Behaviour has changed and wearing one is now the norm. 

It was a bit wet during the middle part of the ride but we set out dry which is always a good thing and returned with skies brightening.
Even my flat 2 miles from Miller Street didn't dampened my enjoyment of the ride.  
Soup was excellent. Cheers Greg and Mrs Greg

Ginty,
Like Charlie said AARGH (again). Hope you're on the mend. On the up side, that'll be another new bike from the compy. I'm sure there's a good lawyer that'll argue you a decent case.
Take it easy
M

I think we should leave matters as posted. If necessary amend the route as required, avoiding higher roads. People will know if the weather closes in and get sketchy to head home or back to Miller Street  
I’ll be out for the 09.30 group. Will bring intel from higher parts with me. 

Aiming to be out with the 09.30 group. Won't be a race Karen. Hopefully the group will stick together, even on the ascents and ensure no one limps back to Miller Street on their own.
Fully expect the 09.45 group to make the catch somewhere between Kilmalcolm and Lochwinnoch. 

Aiming to be out with the 09.30 group. Won't be a race Karen. Hopefully the group will stick together, even on the ascents and ensure no one limps back to Miller Street on their own.
Fully expect the 09.45 group to make the catch somewhere between Kilmalcolm and Lochwinnoch. 

Will probably tag along for a bit, at least until Stewarton then bale for Luggie and home. I hope its better (warmer) weather than yesterday. Cold is not good, sleet is just horrible. Binned my ride after 2 hours due to iced up digits. 
M

Will probably tag along for a bit, at least until Stewarton then bale for Luggie and home. I hope its better (warmer) weather than yesterday. Cold is not good, sleet is just horrible. Binned my ride after 2 hours due to iced up digits. 
M

Cheers Iain. A nice wee run to break my 2019 duck. Good to catch up with some familiar faces and meet new ones. 
Tired legs by the time I got the last drag home. See y’all in 2 weeks. 

Disgusting bike pornography. Can’t wait to see it in the flesh. 

Those are not tacx flow units in the Fullerton picture. Flows run a single cable from the brake unit to the bar mounted headset. Fortius units perhaps on a networked pc or individual laptops. Good set up nonetheless.
The £400 trainer was a tacx flux from Halfords. Apologies to George for the wee moment of shock. 
M