2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted April 30, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 https://www.strava.com/segments/6557667 Munters Munt Climb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 This one is nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions PaulL Posted April 30, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Northerly wind for a few hours today, than a head wind rest for week... do I need to phone in sick! thejanullrichdietplan and stevie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Ian Archibald Posted April 30, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Segment is warming up. Resting up for Sunday night in case Paul McD slips in a killer blow at the death... P McDonald and stevie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Decent time into a headwind. With favourable conditions the KOM is there for the taking. Friday morning will be my last chance for an attempt this week. Not looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Ian Archibald Posted May 1, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I got the King of the Munt just after I joined the JWCC in May 2014. Been trying to go faster for 4 years (I live just round the corner) and failed. And Stevie comes along and beats me first time out. He hasn't had the full JWCC negative vibe treatment yet. I'll start it now. You'll never get that KoM Stevie! The weather forecast is so bad this week I'd stay in bed. George, stevie and robster82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Marked man now! Its alright Ian anything over 3-4 minutes and I’ll soon know my place! (I will get that kom now, even if it takes me all season) Ian Archibald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted May 1, 2018 Author 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I had a look at the segment effort comparison last night to see where i went wrong in terms of pacing (the answer is i was too slow at the start, the middle and the end ) but while doing so noticed that the KOM time is the result of the sample rate rather than it being a particularly fast time - for the KOM effort the time was taken 20 metres into the segment and it ends before the actual end too. So in effect 32 seconds will have been a faster attempt than the KOM effort...and to rub salt in Ians wounds, 34 seconds is probably faster too! Strava....serious business stevie, GaryK and Roberto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I did wonder how that guy went from 5 seconds behind to 2 in front in 20m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jannza Posted May 1, 2018 Administrators Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, thejanullrichdietplan said: I had a look at the segment effort comparison last night to see where i went wrong in terms of pacing (the answer is i was too slow at the start, the middle and the end ) but while doing so noticed that the KOM time is the result of the sample rate rather than it being a particularly fast time - for the KOM effort the time was taken 20 metres into the segment and it ends before the actual end too. So in effect 32 seconds will have been a faster attempt than the KOM effort...and to rub salt in Ians wounds, 34 seconds is probably faster too! Strava....serious business Is this from Strava premium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted May 1, 2018 Author 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jannza said: Is this from Strava premium? I dont know...its on the website version rather than the phone app, if you click on a segment there is an option to compare efforts - its to the right of the map under the fastest times part Jannza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted May 1, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I knew it was worth buying that device that tells you when to start the segment for the best sample rate advantage. At least now I know how it works. Its especially useful at Auchengrange hill due to the sporadic tree cover at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions AlanT Posted May 1, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Might give this a go on Friday on my way home from work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted May 1, 2018 Committee Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 wow. this topic has gone full strava saddo, fantastic. This is on my way home from work so hope to have a look if wind goes north. Assuming no-one has an tricked out Emonda, or a Quick Step lead out train, then we're pretty much just comparing max power/kg over 30 secs. I wouldn't get anywhere near the necessary 8w/kg or so. but some of you big-butted sprinters could do it (looking at you Jan, 670w should do it) Always have to put the power down ten metres before any segment to avoid dreaded lag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alan McLean said: wow. this topic has gone full strava saddo, fantastic. This is on my way home from work so hope to have a look if wind goes north. Assuming no-one has an tricked out Emonda, or a Quick Step lead out train, then we're pretty much just comparing max power/kg over 30 secs. I wouldn't get anywhere near the necessary 8w/kg or so. but some of you big-butted sprinters could do it (looking at you Jan, 670w should do it) Always have to put the power down ten metres before any segment to avoid dreaded lag. 10.33wpk for me. Ian Archibald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Ian Archibald Posted May 1, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 6 hours ago, thejanullrichdietplan said: I had a look at the segment effort comparison last night to see where i went wrong in terms of pacing (the answer is i was too slow at the start, the middle and the end ) but while doing so noticed that the KOM time is the result of the sample rate rather than it being a particularly fast time - for the KOM effort the time was taken 20 metres into the segment and it ends before the actual end too. So in effect 32 seconds will have been a faster attempt than the KOM effort...and to rub salt in Ians wounds, 34 seconds is probably faster too! Strava....serious business Let me get this right: The KoM was done on a smartphone which samples every 4 seconds. But we all did it on Garmins. And what is the sample rate on a Garmin? And you said Karl Bewick used to get dropped in neutral zones of Cat 3/4 races... Need more explanation Iain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 I think garmins and wahoo are every 1 second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions AlanT Posted May 4, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 ‘Kin brutal. But then, on my commuter with an additional 10kg of luggage you can’t expect much else.... stevie, PaulL and GaryK 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted May 6, 2018 Author 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 This weeks points. Stevie and Paul fighting it out for the win but tied in the end. Unfortunately Alans prediction of 670 watts being enough for me was an underestimate. The horrifying thought is i must be heavier than i look! Stevie and Paul mcd - 32 seconds - 6 points Glen and me - 33 seconds - 5 points Ian A - 34 seconds - 4 points Marc - 35 seconds - 3 points Paul L, Robert and James S - 36 seconds - 2 points David C - 37 seconds - 1 point Gerrard, Alan T and Charlie - 44 seconds - 1 point Eric - 47 seconds - 1 point Anthony - 51 seconds - 1 point Graham - 52 seconds - 1 point Ian mcg - 1 min 2 - 1 point James M and Darryl - 1 min 4 - 1 point Chung - 1 min 9 - 1 point Roberto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted May 6, 2018 Author 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Overall table. Name Week 1 + 2 Munters Munt Overall Stevie 11 6 17 Ian A 10 4 14 Paul mcd 8 6 14 Iain mct 7 5 12 Glen 3 5 8 Robbie 6 6 Eric 3 1 4 James S 1 2 3 Paul L 1 2 3 Marc 0 3 3 Anthony 1 1 2 David C 1 1 2 Robert 2 2 Billy 1 1 Jann 1 1 Graham 1 1 Chung 1 1 Darryl 1 1 Charlie 1 1 Alan T 1 1 Ian mcg 1 1 James M 1 1 Richard B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions XXX Posted May 6, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Group rides don’t and shouldn’t count so those that did it in a group should own up and return their points Roberto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Gerard Deeley Posted May 6, 2018 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 hours ago, thejanullrichdietplan said: Overall table. Name Week 1 + 2 Munters Munt Overall Stevie 11 6 17 Ian A 10 4 14 Paul mcd 8 6 14 Iain mct 7 5 12 Glen 3 5 8 Robbie 6 6 Eric 3 1 4 James S 1 2 3 Paul L 1 2 3 Marc 0 3 3 Anthony 1 1 2 David C 1 1 2 Robert 2 2 Billy 1 1 Jann 1 1 Graham 1 1 Chung 1 1 Darryl 1 1 Charlie 1 1 Alan T 1 1 Ian mcg 1 1 James M 1 1 Richard B 1 1 Am I not allowed my lonely point on the leaderboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted May 7, 2018 Author 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Sorry about that....here is the updated table Name Week 1 + 2 Munters Munt Overall Stevie 11 6 17 Ian A 10 4 14 Paul mcd 8 6 14 Iain mct 7 5 12 Glen 3 5 8 Robbie 6 6 Eric 3 1 4 James S 1 2 3 Paul L 1 2 3 Marc 0 3 3 Anthony 1 1 2 David C 1 1 2 Robert 2 2 Billy 1 1 Jann 1 1 Graham 1 1 Chung 1 1 Darryl 1 1 Charlie 1 1 Alan T 1 1 Ian mcg 1 1 James M 1 1 Gerard 1 1 Richard B 1 1 stevie and Gerard Deeley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted May 7, 2018 Committee Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Billy, I think group rides are ok. I'll bet all but the most hilly KOMs were done in bunch with tailwind anyway. Even if you ban groups people will still work covertly with their pals, I know I would. Only the very saddest person would then look through fly-bys etc to see who was domestique-ing who. (I do that too) All fair in love and Strava. A sense of the ridiculousness is good. I would get out more but I have to wait for my Garmin to recharge. George and stevie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, Alan McLean said: Billy, I think group rides are ok. I'll bet all but the most hilly KOMs were done in bunch with tailwind anyway. Even if you ban groups people will still work covertly with their pals, I know I would. Only the very saddest person would then look through fly-bys etc to see who was domestique-ing who. (I do that too) All fair in love and Strava. A sense of the ridiculousness is good. I would get out more but I have to wait for my Garmin to recharge. I’m trying to convince the misses that driving along with the boot lid open in the act of ultimate motor pacing is a legit segment of the week tactic. Thus far she is not buying it. GaryK, George, Gerard Deeley and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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