GreigS Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 whos out this sunday hands up meet at 9am clubrooms route t b c greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Malcolm Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Count me in. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Elaine Muirhead Posted August 1, 2011 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Im in See you at 9am Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Elaine Muirhead Posted August 1, 2011 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Just read your news from the sportive Greig! Well done to both of you E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pedalpusher Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 bit confused here i thought that 30milers and the easy riders were the one group im i missing something here could some one help me out here!!!!!!!!!!!!! help needed brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jannza Posted August 2, 2011 Administrators Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Two different groups. The easy riders will probably do approx 50 miles at a faster pace than the 30 milers. Plan for this Sunday for the 30 milers is to try and practice riding as a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 bit confused here i thought that 30milers and the easy riders were the one group im i missing something here could some one help me out here!!!!!!!!!!!!! help needed brian Me too! I thought the recent posts had the 30 milers 'rebadged' as the Easy Riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 See Tonys post and all will become clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 SeeTonys post and all will become clear I had actually read it already. Shall do so again EDIT: So...I read without reading the first time! I'll get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 our pace is set by the slowest rider regouping at the top of hills greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I think I have created a bit of confusion here. Let me explain. A few weeks ago I started this thread: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5914 ...proposing a new "Intermediate" group but one or two people made comments suggesting that a separate intermediate group was not justified. So yes I re-pitched it as a "beginner to intermediate" group under the name "Easy Riders" which seemed a convenient tag. I thought the 30-miler folk might want to come on board, in other words. Last week's "Easy Riders" run was really a bit of an experiment. It was a partial success in that we got a very big turnout but only a few of the people who turned up were (as far as I could tell) 30-miler regulars. Also, looking at some of the posts this week it's now increasingly clear to me that people want the 30-miler group to continue as a separate entity, and I'm not going to argue with that. As Groucho Marx once said - I wouldn't want to join any club that had me as a member So yes Richie is right - "Easy Riders" was a sort of "rebranding exercise" but not a very well thought-out one. Basically I think I misinterpreted a few comments (or perhaps just took them too seriously). For the sake of clarity I am now going to rename the "Easy Riders" group back to the "Intermediate" group as I proposed originally. (I'm thinking about this with newcomers in mind - "Intermediate" is fairly unambiguous). Anyone not OK with this? It's no more or less than what I proposed originally. To clarify this leaves us with three groups (the one in red is the new one): 30-milers Intermediate bunch Main bunch Personally I think these three streams reflect the size and diversity of the club's membership very well and I think it will encourage more people to come out on a Sunday. Over the years I've noticed that the Reliability Runs tend to attract a very big turnout and I think there are two reasons for that: 1. Advance publicity (routes are well-known and posted in advance) 2. Use of three separate streams (due to the three separate groups people know they will be able to ride with a group that roughly corresponds to their fitness level/aspirations) It's all about having fun basically - the more homogeneous a group the easier it is to manage the group and the more fun it is to be a part of. Also - I think there is an optimum size for a bunch (probably about 10-12) and once you get much beyond this it becomes a bit hard to manage. I must admit I didn't realise this until I tried "leading" a large group of 15-20 riders - simple things like trying to make yourself heard when shouting out the turns (it can be a challenge if you're at the back and the leaders are 20 metres away, upwind). Holding the group together through junctions is another one - and of course punctures/mechanicals become more of an issue the bigger the group gets. So these are further reasons why I think three groups will suit us better than two. (In fact I think this is one of the reasons Kenny MacDonald set up the 30-milers group in the first place - to split the Sunday bunch in two. I seem to remember him making comments alluding to smaller groups being easier to manage but at the time I didn't really appreciate what he was on about. Every day's a schoolday). Thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 But the Easy Riders was such a cool name Cheers Tony. You're right about the reliability runs. One of them was my first club run and because it was so clear as to the route/pace etc, I felt entirely confident about making it my first outing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedalpusher Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 still confused will decide which group to go with on sunday .i need to put miles in for my london to paris gig would like to do the easy riders group (sorry intermediate group ) but dont want spat out the back so its decision time !!!!!! thanks brian kelly ps richie txt me youre number pls had probs with phone seem to have lost youres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Will do Brian. Is that you coming out on Sat and Sun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 another 2 potential new members will be joining us greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Guys and gals the forecast is not looking good for the morning with local flooding predicted if its really heavy in the morning i suggest we postpone and try to get out midweek Greig Judean peoples front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Ramsay Posted August 6, 2011 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I still plan to head out unless it's really really bad. Elaine (not Ramsay)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Malcolm Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I will also go out. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jannza Posted August 6, 2011 Administrators Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I'll make a decision in the morning, the forecast did look dreadful. Will post by 08:00 as after that I need to be ready to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 were still planning to be there unless there is a river running down the road greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedalpusher Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 still up for tomorrow if weathers not absolutely chucking it down need to stretch the legs after to grueler !!! if not im up for something during the week hope to see you tomorrow brian kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions carol cowan Posted August 6, 2011 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Hi Greig We are hoping to join you tomorrow depending on how heavy the rain is. Will make our minds up in the morning. I am up for a mid week cycle. Carol C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Its 07 15 and raining but im going out on my bike Greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigS Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Its 07 15 and raining but im going out on my bike Greig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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