2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 3, 2016 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hi Folks  My lever is broken and so I'm still on the winter bike which itself has some v worn components. Lever is currently with Willie at Q bikes, but it is not certain that he can fix it before we go to Spain, if at all. So, as a plan B, does anyone have a RH (or a pair of) Campagnolo 11 speed lever(s) they would part with? Beer tokens waiting.  I have a plan C and D, but they are considerably more expensive and to be avoided if at all possible.  Thanks in advance  D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 4, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Anyone have anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 4, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ok. It was a long shot! Plan B = new group set. Shimano Ultegra. Will be fitting it myself so if anyone of you has done this before and has any observations to help, then fire away, please. alexb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted May 4, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ok. It was a long shot! Plan B = new group set. Shimano Ultegra. Will be fitting it myself so if anyone of you has done this before and has any observations to help, then fire away, please. Oh no, Darryl, please don't do it! Once you cross the divide, there's no going back  I think we should start a "petition" for Darryl to stay Campag :-)  Cheers  Chung Richie Cross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 4, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Too late Chung. I've just bought an Ultegra g/s, complete with dinner plate 32 tooth cassette. Just need to get the crank and bottom bracket off the old frame. Â Will still have a Campag g/s once I get the lever repaired. Will probably sell though if Ultegra works out. Been on Campag for 35 years apart from a brief early Shimano touring experiment in biopace days. Â I was impressed at LBL with the hire bike I had which was kitted out with Ultegra chung, DavidC and PaulL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions ginty001 Posted May 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 You know it makes sense Darryl. I have all the necessary tools if you need to borrow anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 4, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Cheers Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted May 5, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Also have all tools DArryl, and have fitted many if any help needed. The Shimano service instructions are pretty good. Would only caution that the latest front mech fitting appears very complicated with a little gauge plate allegedly required to determine cable entry position. Don' t fret, just fit it one way, if it does not seem good then other. Also the very smooth front shift works on high tension cable so best to hold in the mech a bit when you attach cable (I'll stop now, probably easier to just show you) Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Thanks Paul  Just the sort of advice I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Too late Chung. I've just bought an Ultegra g/s yer deid to me James Esus and Richard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 For the time being I'll have dual membership - shimpag. It may turn out that my dalliance with Shimano is a mistake, I'll just have to see. Â But comrades, rest assured that I do realise the seriousness of this issue. I have not taken this course of action lightly Richard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions XXX Posted May 5, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Daryl I too are in that horrible place between quality Italian components and cheaper mass produced tat However after many sessions I have decided to fully realign and new bike will be Campag, plus going to Rome next week to ask for forgiveness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 You'll be a prodigal son, Billy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Nowt wrong with shim. Italian quality is limited to wine, cheese, coffee and food in general. Football now and then. And perhaps fashion/style but I'm no expert. Their technological brilliance died with the empire around 300 AD or thereabouts. Â As for mass production cheap tat, I think you'll find Compag is not a cottage industry. Prejudicial slips showing Me thinks. Â PS it is Darryl's compag shifter that's gub. No mention of a gubbed shim shifter. Oops! Mere detail I'm sure. Lol. alexb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexb Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Do campag do bike gear? I thought they focussed on corkscrews these days? Â Though can't comment as a nice pair of campag shamal mille have just been delivered in time for La SufriDA Darryl Gunson and Richie Cross 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Well I make no claims one way or the other as to which is 'best'. But the slick shifting and value for money that you seem to get with Shimano is hard to ignore. Not to mention the 32 on the back for La Sufrida (only to be used as a last resort if course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions XXX Posted May 5, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Mark I will refer you to two business reports recently published both showing a downward trend on Shimano and SRAM , which resulted in both reducing there prices to try and increase sales. Campagnolo have not reduced price or had such a sharp fall , second point shamal Millie ultra wheels maybe the best value light alloy wheel on the market , improved braking due to spiral braking surface and special break blocks nearest in weight is mavic costing 1400 . Lightest electronic group set campag , what do you get on classic bikes campag what does every Shimano owner aspire to Campag super record. Plus I have both Darryl Gunson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted May 5, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Well I make no claims one way or the other as to which is 'best'. But the slick shifting and value for money that you seem to get with Shimano is hard to ignore. Not to mention the 32 on the back for La Sufrida (only to be used as a last resort if course) Darryl,  Campagnolo have released a new grouppo called Potenza (Italian for power) & it does a long rear mech for its 32 sprocket too :-) Maybe you could get a refund for your Ultegra group-san? :-) (Only problem is, it won't be available till June/July)  http://road.cc/content/tech-news/182759-campagnolo-unveils-new-potenza-groupset-first-ride  Chung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Ah Chung  I recall that you also had a bit of a fling with Shimano. I'm doing the same. I'm dreaming of super light shifting and parts that do not require a bank loan to replace. But, if money were no object then I would be riding your bike ginty001 and chung 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted May 5, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Right then, in order to draw this argument of Shimano vs Campagnolo, to its ultimate conclusion. Â Can I just say that if Shimano can produce a coffee table top style book like this, then I'll rethink my allegiance :-) Â Richie Cross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions PaulL Posted May 5, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 SRAM red Wi-fli "cough "cough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted May 5, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 There's actually a fourth electronic group set out now - ROTOR (they used to just make crank sets & rings) have made a group set called "Uno" & it uses hydraulic technologies for changing gears & brakes :-0 Â We're so spoiled for choice :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Rod, check. Fly, check. Cast, check. Bite? oh Darryl Gunson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Well if it's coffee table criteria then that's a whole different ball game. Perhaps that's kinda the point. Campag is all about overpriced stuff that looks good but doesn't bear too much critical scrutiny - just like coffee table books. Well it's a point of view *stands back after lighting the blue touch paper* chung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted May 5, 2016 Author 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Actually I now own SRAM, Shimano, and various 10 and 11 speed Campag groupsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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