2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted March 30, 2016 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Good luck Guys. Hope the weather is kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions XXX Posted March 30, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Guys It is a piece of pish you have done the oldest and hardest one dead jealous Enjoy the waffles and give Porto hell PaulL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions charlie p Posted March 30, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Good luck Flandrians & keep Leavy off the Leffe till after the ride Iain67, DavidC and PaulL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin McPhee Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Good luck cobblemeisters I'll warn the local dentists that they may have an influx from you when your get back due to the fillings have been shaken out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted March 30, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 hoop DAt je een briljante tijd in de ronde Iain67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted March 30, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al yuille Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 All the best guys. Torque everything.....remember JD lost all his chainring bolts ! Darryl Gunson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Tom Hill Posted March 31, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 Days to go... Weather looks nice... Pave... Frites... Bier... Moules... Maybe not in that order Bier definitely in the wrong position and only mentioned once!! Good luck Lads! Watch out for that confusing turn about 30km to go!! Darryl Gunson, Richard and PaulL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted March 31, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Martin, AllanM, Peter Graham, Alan (Coatbridge Clarion) & myself have boarded the ferry in Hull. Guess who we bumped into? Your mate Garvin from the East coast :-) don't worry, he's got a valid passport this time :-) ......... haha! Cheers Chung Darryl Gunson, al yuille and martin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions martin Posted April 2, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 But did he have a bike? A wee birdie tells me he's there for the beer this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted April 3, 2016 Committee Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 where is the report please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted April 3, 2016 Committee Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 or did you all bail out? Paul C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Same question as Alan. Where is the report? Isthere no free WiFi in Belgium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexb Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Sorry - couldn't type and drink beer at the same time! My view of Tour of Flanders... Started out badly with the added security at the airport but finally got to the hotel with Richie and Paul around 8pm to be greeted by Ian Porteous, Iain Carvill and his brother in law John and some lovely Belgian beer. Early start the next day for a very well organised coach transfer to Brugge which dropped us off around 5 miles from the start. I love the European sportive starts, No mad rush, just go whenever you feel like it. We set off in our group of six and were herded on cycle paths for the first 25 miles or so. A bit of a split but we'd agreed to regroup at every food stop (as we were all in the same van back to the hotel at the end). Cycle track pretty monotonous, although I had a close call with scaffolding when my finger caught some orange plastic scaffold covering and ripped several meters of it off (and caused Paul to see his life flash before his eyes as my front wheel twisted sideways.) Many wasted miles of cycle track later we regrouped at the food stop and bumped into Chung's group who had set of earlier. With food stops every 25 miles we limited any spilt to around 5 minutes tops. For the next section Paul and I broke away and jumped from group to group until we hit the first section of pave. Paul was powering up the middle of the road. I was trying to find shelter from the shocking bumps and vibration and jumped onto the smooth pavement and immediately got stuck behind a really slow group, but with no way to get back off the pavement onto the road at this point I watched Paul smash it up the road and disappear. After the cobbles I worked with three guys from University College London and we led a large group at 23-25mph to try and catch back on with Paul. Great fun on the flat and caught Paul just as we hit the next food stop. After this one things started to get a bit more interesting. 2 climbs and 3 stretches of pave (total 2.4km). Pace ramped up a bit and the first of the famous climbs. Wolvenberg (700m av 7.9% max 17.3%) giving an intro of what was to come. Nothing for it on these but to keep powering on and never relaxing as the cobbles sap every bit of energy and forward momentum you have. Then Molenberg (500m 7% av 14.2% max). Every climb was well signposted letting you mentally count down the metres until the summit. Another food stop. Richie was struggling a bit at this point and jumped in with Chung's group (think this was more mental struggling than anything as he survived to the end no problem and was in fine spirits at the line!) Next up another 4.2kmn of cobbles. By this time my rear wheel bearings had decided to loosed off a bit so my wheel had a fair bit of play, but nothing too bad. Water bottles kept trying to escape too, so half focus on them half on road. I hate cobbles. Any relief is sought on these sections, be it grass, mud, drainage gulley, a 2m wide driveway. Anything. Just for a moments relief from the constant pounding. Four more climbs in this section Leberg (800m 4.2% av 13.8% max), Berendries (890m 7.2% av 12% max), Valkenberg (1100m 8.2% av 13% max) and Eikenberg (1200m 6.2%av 10% max). Same old slog. These hills are short and sharp, so the suffering doesn't last too long. Another foodstop and regroup. The next section has the famous Koppenberg on it. No idea what to expect! 2.3km pave then the climbing... I wouldn't generally class cyclists as an inconsiderate bunch but the behaviour on the Koppenberg was disgraceful. Almost everyone was walking up the climb, and some four abreast, effectively blocking the path for anyone that really wanted to give this climb a go. At 500m (felt much longer) 9.4%av and peak of 22% this is a real grind. Its amazing how a very loud guttural Scottish accent can clear a path... I only shoulder barged through one group of walking Italians and managed to carry on grinding, wheelspin, then grip. Out the saddle, more wheelspin, back down and grip. Really tough climb on the cobbles but I made it to the top. During the climb I only saw one or two others actually pedal all the way to the top (the road blocks put paid to most peoples efforts). The crowd was right behind us all the way which was great encouragement. After that I thought nothing can be as tough and the rest should be in the bag. Aye right... 4 more climbs before the next food stop - Steenbeekdries (500m 5.3% av 6.7% max), Taaienberg (700m 6.1% av 16% max), Kaperij (1000m 5.5% av 9% max) and Kanarieberg (1100m 7.7% av 14% max). Think it was the last of these I was climbing with Porto when the muscles above both my knees started to cramp and pop. Loads of drink and salty snacks at the next stop helped to recover. Some great descending around this time to with Paul, Ian and I hammering downs some really smooth tarmac at 35-40mph. Absolutely brilliant! Final foodstop, we agreed to regroup at the top of Patterberg and cross the line together. So off we went again. Only four climbs to go. Kruisberg (1400m 4%av 9% max), Karnemelkbeekstraat (900m 4.9% av 10% max), Oude Kwaremont (2200m 4% av 11.6% max) all in the bag. Only the Paterberg to go (400m 12.9% av 20.3% max). After 130 miles this was the final sting in the tail. I had taken it easy on the second last climb to leave a bit for this one. It starts out steep and just gets steeper. Another crowd favourite and loads of walkers on this one, but at least they stuck to the side. Over the top and parked up to get some photos of the rest of JWCC climbing the hill. After this an easy 10m back to the finish. We just sat in around 15-16mph all the way and made a nice space so we could spread out for a JWCC finish together. Passed Chung in a bar and meant to return, but the finish collection point was about 5 miles past the finish line so we decided to head back to the hotel for some of Belgium's finest. Mentally and physically draining. Really tough day in the saddle and one I won't be doing again. Too much cycle track and I hate cobbles! Why did I agree to do Paris Roubaix next year???!!! Mountain bike for me for that one I think! Overall a great ride, superbly organised and some smashing camaraderie amongst the guys. Just need more blue, yellow and gold next year! 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2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions XXX Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well done but you are one behind us Alex so you have to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Paris - Roubaix is a must Alex. Well done guys! Chapeau to one and all. Good to read you finished as a Joasin group. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions PaulL Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 What a great day out on the bike with the Wheelers, Alex covered most of it. I not sure how Alex stay upright as he caught his hand in some plastic fencing, I saw his front wheel go sideways and I braced myself for eating some concrete. Great skills shown to stay upright and moving forward although I think his darts game may have taken a hit. Highlights for me were "Trying" to smash some of the cobble sections, burning matches by the box load in the first 150km. Hanging on the Alex's wheel jumping after groups, riding echelons in the wind and generally stomping by people saving themselves for the climbs, I did do a few turns here and there The descents were beautiful and fast, except the cobbled ones... I know the previous wheelers that went to Flanders did these cobbled descents in the wet... all I can say is Chapeau for staying upright. I nearly made it up the koppenberg, I don't think I have ever sweared or shouted/pushed so much but it was just a stramash of clip clopping cyclist trying to scramble up slipping cobbles. Ran into the back of some chap walking right up the middle with his two mates side by side, I wont repeat what I called him... But It makes me laugh everytime I think about it, I think he took it in good spirits I did manage to remount on the koppenberg #crossskills paying off and ride over the top. Fair play to Alex for making it up, a show of both physical and verbal strength. Porto made a resurgence on the later climbs motoring passed me a one point shouting something about "being back in the game!" I think he paid for it later as we had to drag him away from the Red Bull girls on top of the Karnemelkbeekstraat. Iain and his Brother John looked strong on the final climbs, Richie joined up with Chung, Alan M, Peter and another Alan(pity we never got to have that beer afterwards, Next time!). I felt I was running on empty over the last few climbs but a happy empty as I could almost taste the Belgian beer in Oudenaarde! Overall the first 40km are a bit of a mess, but it was so well organised(I only missed a turn twice, not the organisers fault). Great company and laughs. Lots of healthy Belgian beer and food! Would I go back again?? Yes please **Richie cross did manage to stop the Legend Eric Zabel and shake his hand... Nice, which I reckon is a sign to do to Milan–San Remo... But it looks like the call of cobbles may be too strong? GrahamF, Gerard Deeley, Richie Cross and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions James Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well done guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Life Members chung Posted April 4, 2016 Life Members Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Ronde De Vlaanderen Sportive Ride 2016 My initial plan for this year was to do my 3rd Paris-Roubaix, but Allan's invitation back in October last year, to join him for a ride around "Flanders" was too good an opportunity to pass - so I said yes! :-) With fond memories of some of the "bergs" from last year, when I visited Oudenaarde via a detour before going to Lille for Paris-Roubaix, so I had an idea of what to expect. But that was just a wee 40km loop with 3 bergs, so it was going to be slightly different with 15 of them plus 230km. My plan was simply to get out & do as much riding over the winter month as possible & I suppose I achieved that despite sometimes the weather not being favourable for it. Day 1 So, bike prepped & "training" done, off we set on Thursday morning on board of Allan's Flander wagon along with Peter & Alan Anderson (Coatbridge Clarion)heading towards Hull for the over night Zeebruggar ferry. It's my 3rd consecutive crossing in as many years of the "Pride of York", it now feels like a home from home for me, especially when bumping into Garvin (honorary wheeler)on board :-) who apparently was "only" over to catch some racing & "pedal around" (he ended up doing 180miles over the course of 2 days) As it happened, Garvin was staying in Brugge as well, which worked in our favour since he's "half Belgium" :-) Day 2 The hotel we booked in was well placed with only a 3 minutes walk to the start square, which we paid a visit to after checking in. Even though it was still 2 days before the pro race, construction of stages & barriers was already well under way with tourists wondering around enjoying the pre-event atmosphere. Brugge is a very beautiful city indeed, friendly people & a laid back atmosphere! We then drove to Oudenaarde (the finishing town) for registration, some site seeing (Flander Museum) & leaving the car there so we can drive back to Brugge once we finished the ride on the day. Like Brugge, Oudenaarde was gearing up for the Ronde, but even more so with more barriers & lycra clad cyclist all around town :-) We had hoped to meet up with some of the Wheelers (who was based in Oudenaarde) but we just could not manage it as different travels arrangements meant it wasn't possible. After collecting our entry pack, we returned to Brugge via a very pleasant train ride. So an early night for us to prepare for a relatively early start the next morning! Day 3 - The Ronde Ride The Ibis hotel we stayed in was great as they prepared breakfast earlier than usual to accommodate all the riders staying there. A proper full breakfast before a ride is always welcome especially this one! Our plan was to start early as it was going to be a long, long day on the saddle, with that in mind the four of us set off just after 7.35am unfortunately without the rest of the Wheelers as they were still coming in via the shuttle bus from Oudenaarde. As the first 100km was pan flat, but through narrow cycle paths in amongst thousands of cyclist, it was fairly stressful indeed as you had to keep your wits about. But I must admit the general standard of riding was quite good with good early shouts & hand signals for the numerous street furniture about. Sitting on endless available wheels made the initial 100km covered fairly easy with a few food stops thrown in. It was the first feed stops that we bumped into the rest of the Wheelers as we were just heading off. At this point Allan had a slight problem with his Di2 front mech after a big(ger) American guy fell on top of him while trying to unclip. It wouldn't be much of a big deal had it not for the fact he could not shift the chain off the big ring and with the cobble & climbs coming in thick & fast, it wasn't ideal to say the least. Luckily he was able to "manually" drop the chain onto the small ring before he came to the really steep ones. So, kudos to the Big man for riding some of the climbs in his big ring :-0 As well as the bergs, there were obviously stretches of cobbles which I rather "enjoy" riding over :-) But compare to the Roubaix Pave, these were much more manageable in my view. Our strategy (I'm sure it was the same for all) was to get behind bunches on the flats & come the climbs just ride it at your own pace to regroup at the top and then for more wheel sucking :-) Most of the bergs were ridden without major issues, they are steep cobble climbs but with the right gearing, technique & attitude, it was certainly very manageable. But we have heard the day before that the Koppenberg was wet & muddy which meant it was difficult to ride up it (even for Astana Pro riders) The rumour was right - when we hit it, it was carnage with folks (myself included) un-clipping as it was too slippery for the wheels to grip. A few did get up but only just with wider tyres & helpful spectators pushing them on up the slope. The Koppenberg was one of the feared 3 iconic climbs on Flanders, so one down & two to go. However these would not come until the very end after 200km with the Paterberg hitting over 20% maximum with an average of 13% .......... ouch! So, I left a bit in the tank & popped a gel before these two, knowing the worse is still to come, the Oude Kwaremont was a good warm up just before the Paterberg. The Paterberg is short but the gradient is certainly not. At one point I felt my front wheel lifting & my thighs was starting to cramp because of fatigue plus the steepness, I was on the verge of un-clipping but luckily the sight to the top was enough motivation for me to keep going and crest the top for a fast decent into a headwind of the last 18km to the finish, be it with a combine effort with a few Belgiums :-) We crossed the line after a total of 10h40m on the road (including 5 feed stops) not bad I thought! Crossing the finish line was rather satisfying as you can imagine & therefore I allowed myself an annual beer for celebration on a job quite well done :-) Well done to Allan, Peter & Alan who I believed was their longest ride to date! Day 4 The Pro Race What better way to enjoy breakfast with one of the legend of cycling sitting next to you -Sean Kelly was staying in the same hotel as us. When we asked, he obliged happily to pose with us for a wee photo, a real gent! After breakfast, we met Garvin in the start square to soak in the pre-race carnival atmosphere & saw some wacky Sagan fans let loose in the square. As soon as we waved the riders off, we set about trying to find a good viewing point for some race action. With the knowledge of Garvin & Alan's tracking skills we eventually managed to come across a spot where the peleton just past as we pulled into a cordoned off street. We had just missed then & as they past, the fans just ran straight back to their vehicles to race to the next viewing point. We made an instant decision to follow them assuming they'll know where they're going. Speeding through narrow village streets at 100kms an hour just to keep up with them was not fun at all, but exciting nonetheless :-) Eventually we settled on the Kruisberg (the 4th last climb in the circuit) to catch the race since our time constraints meant we could not catch it at the Kwaremont. Sunshine, beer & hotdogs was accompanied by first the woman race coming through, then seeing the mens race with Sagan, Cancellara el tel passing was just the final gem in our weekend of Belgium cycling! A big thanks to AllanM, Peter Graham, Alan Anderson & Garvin for their great company & organisation for the trip. It was a real shame that we could not met up with the rest before or after the ride, well at least we tried & got to meet briefly at the various feed stops! So, here's a few photos for youse to enjoy: https://www.flickr.com/photos/55693145@N05/albums/72157664481621673 Thanks for reading, until next time! Cheers Chung JaneF, Ian Porteous, EricL and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions AlanT Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Great effort guys. Truly outstanding feats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted April 4, 2016 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Exceptional reports lADs, must have taken longer to write up then ride it ! Very well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well.....wow Did I love it all of the time, absolutely not! Great reports from the others that have covered most parts. I was really nervous going into this as I had hoped signing up for it would spur me on to lots of miles but it didn't really. As Alex said, we were later than planned getting to the 'hotel'...cheap and cheerful small rooms but good enough for sleeping...then we went for the longest dinner in the world waiting for hard to make pizza and pasta! Apparently the chef's wife left him midway through the evening hence the delay! Everyone else seemed to get served ok though! So plans of being in bed for 9.30/10pm were delayed by a couple of hours and the alarm going off at 4.15am the next day wasn't that welcome. Unlike Chung and the others, we had no breakfast to speak of at ours and had to make do with croissants and cold pizza We found the well organised bus so got a wee nap on the drive to Bruges. The pace at the start and jumping between groups didn't really suit me and I hit an awful low at around 50 odd miles. Didn't want to pedal and would've taken a lift if offered. Porto and Iain kept me going and then I jumped onto the group with Chung et al as they seemed to be sticking together and I knew Chung was a wheel sucker extraordinaire That was definitely a great plan and as Chung said, together on the flats, own pace on the bergs and regroup after. Once my food and copious amounts of gels hit my system I started to feel better and, dare I say it, pretty good in the end. The bergs and cobbles were doable once you knew what to expect. I had to get off on the Koppenberg like a lot of others which was a pity. The kms did tick off pretty quickly in the end once we got stuck into the interesting parts of the day. I might've missed some nice sights earlier but you didn't dare take your eyes off the wheel in front where you were on the narrow paths. Eventually we hit the Paterberg and my heart did sink a bit when I say it rise in front of me. Chung went off and I thought I'd catch him on the descent but we both managed to get into small groups. My group was then caught by a larger group so I jumped onto them and it was a pretty fast, manic run into the finish. It was a good feeling being on the same finishing straight as you see the pros and seeing the finish line in the distance. After getting our medals etc it was back to our hotel for a few beers......our intial plan was to head to Ghent but we were all a bit done in .....then bed. Race day gave us glorious sunshine and Oudenaarde is a nice wee town and we found a good wee pub. It was weird being in a pub with everyone clapping and cheering the riders at the end. Not what we're used to back home. The atmosphere in the pub and in the square was more like our footy crowds without the violence! And yes, I did indeed shake the hand of Erik Zabel....he did look a tad confused Chung....jealous of your Sean Kelly photo!!! An easy drive to the airport in the sun then home to rain...bed by 1am and up at 6am with the wee man this morning! Heading to night shift soon!! All in all, a pretty easy trip to organise, a superbly ran event. We had a great group over there. Lots of laughs and encouragement. The bergs were hard but doable at your own pace. The cobbled bergs were harder though. The other cobbled sections were ok once you got used to what to expect! I would do it again I think. Apart from Allan's mech issue, I don't think we had a flat between us?? I saw lots of bottles on the cobbles, flats, broken chains, one broken frame, saddle bags and even bits of a rear mech on the course! I'm pretty keen on Paris - Roubaix next year now. I've already mentioned to Mrs C and she's ok with it See you soon GrahamF, Ian Porteous, EricL and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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