Conlin Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello to all. New very keen cyclist here. Started last Jan commuting at the start and some weekend rides, got myself up to 40+miles before winter kicked in. Now in training for a big challenge with work. Glasgow to London in 4 days. I'm quite comfortable with the training and getting my fitness to that level but need to practice riding in groups. So need to join obv Keep an eye on the forum for weekend runs when weather picks up? Just turn up? Also I've been told to get a professional bike fit in prep for my training and the challenge. Anywhere local do this? How much and is it worth it? Ta much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Bike fit can be expensive £150 upwards to be fair could be worth it however having done 10 days on a bike riding 110 miles a day you will get sore and uncomfortable whether it's done or not Run most Sunday's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello and welcome As you say, look out for runs on the forum. Depending on how long the 40 odd miles takes you would determine what group you give a go first. On a good day we'll have 3 groups out. If you don't work Mon - Fri there might be folk available during the week. I had a bike fit at Dales which was about £100 at the time. There wasn't much changed but it gave me peace of mind. It did take about 3hrs so felt I got my money's worth. There's enough info on the web or through experienced riders that could give you a general starting point with regards to saddle height etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello and welcome As you say, look out for runs on the forum. Depending on how long the 40 odd miles takes you would determine what group you give a go first. On a good day we'll have 3 groups out. If you don't work Mon - Fri there might be folk available during the week. I had a bike fit at Dales which was about £100 at the time. There wasn't much changed but it gave me peace of mind. It did take about 3hrs so felt I got my money's worth. There's enough info on the web or through experienced riders that could give you a general starting point with regards to saddle height etc. Thanks all. I have a CX and a new road bike however I have noticed on the road bike my right foot getting a bit. £100 isn't cheap but think I'll get it for peace of mind as you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello and welcome As you say, look out for runs on the forum. Depending on how long the 40 odd miles takes you would determine what group you give a go first. On a good day we'll have 3 groups out. If you don't work Mon - Fri there might be folk available during the week. I had a bike fit at Dales which was about £100 at the time. There wasn't much changed but it gave me peace of mind. It did take about 3hrs so felt I got my money's worth. There's enough info on the web or through experienced riders that could give you a general starting point with regards to saddle height etc. I'm averaging 16-17mph, not sure where that puts me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Cross Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Right foot getting a bit??? There might be cheaper...a mate knows someone who is doing it for not much..just starting out etc. Think he's Campsie based though depending where you live. Ask for Jonathan Allen at Dales. It's all the Specialized BG fit stuff. Measure how flexible you are and no pressure to buy anything from them if they suggest a new stem for example. That's a good average on your own. You could easily add 2-3mph onto that in a group depending on the route terrain. If it's only the main bunch heading out, just try to look at the route and see where you could bail out if the run was a 70 miler etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 CX bike could be a bit smaller than your road bike, also is it different pedals,shoes on the bike, there are a few self tweaks before spending. Also a big box of 500mg painkillers is only a £5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Cowden Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.walkerscycling.co.uk/Cycling%20Performance%20Consultancy/index.htm Hi Paul As others have said you can get a lot of good stuff on the net on bike fit. If you are set on a local pro job the above link gives an alternative to Dales (Neil Walker of Walkers Cycling). I have no knowledge of either so maybe best fish about for reviews/price comparison. Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny MacDonald Posted January 15, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Visualbikefit.com owner is Drew Wilson an honorary life member of Johnstone Wheelers and former proffessional cyclist. Mention you are a club member and Drew will see you ok, he can offer much more than a bikefit . He has experience of racing at all levels all over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted January 15, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hi, Paul. Welcome to the Wheelers. An alternative to a professional fit is to borrow a set of rollers from someone and spend an afternoon altering your position and videoing each change. I use wee coloured stickers on the seatpost, saddle rails and bars to track the changes. It'll quickly become obvious what looks and feels better, and as Iain says, there's lots of information available online. Perhaps a professional fit would produce a better result (plenty of folk look better on a bike than me; few are as reluctant to spend money!) I suppose it all depends on the skill of the fitter. What's happening to your right foot on the road bike and are you using different shoes/pedals when you ride it? All the best, Richard. chung and Alan Michael 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions George Posted January 15, 2015 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Excellent bit of lateral thinking there, Richard. (Bottom video looks best) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Members chung Posted January 15, 2015 Life Members Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Greetings Paul, welcome to the club! Hope to see you out soon! Cheers Chung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 whos the guy in the video anybody know him chung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Cowden Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Star quality Richard - nice bike BTW! Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny MacDonald Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Members of an older age will recall me videoing riders on road and TT bikes each winter at turbo sessions . Playing back views from all angles helps riders see quickly not just position on bike but pedalling technique . We had a stock of mirrors also at that time collected from jumble sales which riders used to do own set up checks. The aforementioned Drew Wilson never trained without a mirror ( maybe that is why he runs a bikefit business now ? ) He would also ask for copies of his bikefit sessions to take home and analysis. Drew also does wind tunnel testing so something to consider for a group session ? Iain Cowden, Richard and chung 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions Ramsay Posted January 16, 2015 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi Paul, As others have already said, welcome to the club. In answer to your question, yes, keep an eye out for details of club runs that have been planned. If the weather is good, there are usually a few different bunches going out. The meeting place is mostly always at the clubrooms, Miller Street, Johnstone. When you turn up, just introduce yourself and find out which group you are planning to go with. If you haven't ridden in a bunch before, then let someone know, and they will go through a quick few pointers (it is really easy, but need to remember signals and calls). Enjoy and I hope you get your bike fit sorted. Cheers, Ramsay chung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Btw, another benefit of DIY video is you can get a second opinion from your pals by email. I got great advice from a Wheeler after seven adjustments (top-right video) and then again after another six changes (bottom video) - lest he thinks I've forgotten! whos the guy in the video anybody know him He's a slimmer version of me, Billy. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Right foot getting a bit??? There might be cheaper...a mate knows someone who is doing it for not much..just starting out etc. Think he's Campsie based though depending where you live. Ask for Jonathan Allen at Dales. It's all the Specialized BG fit stuff. Measure how flexible you are and no pressure to buy anything from them if they suggest a new stem for example. That's a good average on your own. You could easily add 2-3mph onto that in a group depending on the route terrain. If it's only the main bunch heading out, just try to look at the route and see where you could bail out if the run was a 70 miler etc Oops, right foot getting a bit numb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Visualbikefit.com owner is Drew Wilson an honorary life member of Johnstone Wheelers and former proffessional cyclist. Mention you are a club member and Drew will see you ok, he can offer much more than a bikefit . He has experience of racing at all levels all over the world. This looks ideal. I'll contact Drew today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi, Paul. Welcome to the Wheelers. An alternative to a professional fit is to borrow a set of rollers from someone and spend an afternoon altering your position and videoing each change. I use wee coloured stickers on the seatpost, saddle rails and bars to track the changes. It'll quickly become obvious what looks and feels better, and as Iain says, there's lots of information available online. Perhaps a professional fit would produce a better result (plenty of folk look better on a bike than me; few are as reluctant to spend money!) I suppose it all depends on the skill of the fitter. What's happening to your right foot on the road bike and are you using different shoes/pedals when you ride it? All the best, Richard. Right foot around toe is getting a bit numb, using same shoes as on my CX so bike the only difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Are you using mountain bike pedals with a small surface area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexb Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi Paul, Welcome. Another bike fitting option is to use the bike fast fit app. It films you on a turbo and you pinpoint various points on the screen and works out angles and other mumbo jumbo. A friend of mine tried it to compare his properly fitted bike with another and was pretty impressed with the results. Might iron out any major fit problems but can't see how it can compare with a reputable professional... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Are you using mountain bike pedals with a small surface area? No cleats and spd pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 I rode with SPD mountain bike pedals on my road bike for years - Shimano M520s. They don't provide a very big platform for the foot and I'd get numbness and hotspots on longer rides - anything over 30-40 miles. It was just a thought. Your problem could be caused by all sorts of different things. Hopefully your bike fit will solve it. In the meantime, maybe try wiggling/scrunching up your toes every now and then when you're riding, see if that makes a difference. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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