Committee Alan McLean Posted October 26, 2013 Committee Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Me too Should manage a wee run at it for a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I'll be there this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted October 26, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted October 26, 2013 Members Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin McPhee Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted October 27, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Im in Thinking of putting a bigger gear on - currently have a 50x15 which is 90 inches (from what i've read track gears are measured slightly different from road gears) and have a 49x14 available (94.5 inches) which seems to be quite a jump so not sure if it is sensible or not. What are you all riding? (Or is it a secret ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions P McDonald Posted October 27, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 No secret, 48-14. This is a pretty popular gear. That said, you like you would be comfortable with a slightly bigger gear. 49 -14 is only 2% more than a 48-14. Hardly noticeable by most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Iain I have 49 14 it's ok was thinking of changing to 49 13 but will wait till I am fitter You notice it in the sprints just takes a bit longer to get on top of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2024 Subscriptions Darryl Gunson Posted October 27, 2013 2024 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Not this week. But should be OK for the rest of Nov/Dec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted October 27, 2013 Members Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 You'll get as many opinions as there are riders on this particular subject. I've been getting my legs ripped off on 52x15 (93.6") for the last three weeks. I never imagined that I'd go that high. For my first fortnight in the A group, I was on 48x14 (92.6"). The difference between those two gears is 1" - that's the smallest incremental increase you can make from 48x14. But the way the change feels - to my mind at least - is completely disproportionate to that 1" increase. I think the 52 is much, much harder to accelerate than the 48, but it seems to roll better when you are up to speed. You're talking about a 4.5" jump, Iain. Unless you have a pre-track league epidural, you'll definitely notice the difference! The bigger the gear, the harder it is to accelerate. Your legs suffer even more for every change of pace in the bunch. If you're a big beast of Scottish cycling, if you can ride a 20-minute ten on the Westferry, 93"-plus might work for you. Everyone else should be trying to pedal and spin instead of pushing a big gear. Ask some of the youths in the adult A group what gear they're on - it'll blow your mind. If you're going to experiment I think it's best to make wee changes. If you could get your hands on a 48-tooth chainring (to use with your 14-tooth sprocket) or a 51-tooth chainring (to use with the 15) that'd maybe be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Rich, that's about right re the change from a 48 to a 52, even on the same inches the 48 is easier to spin up and the 52 will roll better! I'm riding 49x14 and it spins along nicely, Ian, try it, you'll be fine. I was riding 50x14 in the C's, changed down towards the end in May, it helped. (FYI just did the pursuit and kilo on 50x14, Sprint/flying 200 + Kierin on 50x13) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committee Alan McLean Posted October 27, 2013 Author Committee Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Youth A riders currently riding and podiuming in Senior A group on 48/15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted October 27, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Will stick with the 50x15 for another week then give something else a go at a drop in. I dont have a power metre so difficult to judge if the figures back it up or not but if on the road bike doing a hard effort (one that is longer than a sprint) then about 100 - 105 rpm feels most efficient, which is a lot lower than what i'd be at doing a similar effort on the track. I suppose there is the fixed wheel to take into account though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Do some spin drills for speed you should be able to spin up to and above 120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions AlanT Posted October 28, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Working away again this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Posted October 30, 2013 Members Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Change of plan for me, folks - I think I've got a cold coming. Best of luck tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2023 Subscriptions thejanullrichdietplan Posted October 31, 2013 2023 Subscriptions Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Enjoyable night in the Cs Scratch was ok but couldnt close down on the leaders before the line and finished 4th. The points was hard - the roll out lap had riders spread all over the track and getting told to bunch up - however before this happened he gun went so there were a few of us at the back and having to dig in and close a gap before we'd crossed the start line. This ruined Billys pre race strategy of going for a break after the first sprint. Ended up getting back and taking the 2nd or 3rd sprint and trried to stay out, got caught by someone on the line for the next points then it was just a case of trying to hang on. Colin was finishing strongly and as he moved up to contest the sprints i tried to get on his wheel but couldnt and that was when the elastic snapped and i got dropped, fortunately was near the end so didnt have much longer to suffer! Devil was next and pretty pleased with a 2nd. Almost got eliminated a couple of times early so moved to the front and tried to stay there which i managed thanks to Alan sitting on my shoulder meaning riders would have to go quite wide to come round (was a tactic that worked pretty well and almost paid off for us both with Alan finishing 4th - after having ridden an extra few metres compared to me every lap!). Eventually came down to 2 of us left and i led out the sprint but the other guy came round me in the back straight and i couldnt respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It was a frustrating night had a cunning plan for the scratch which involved doing nothing andetting others drag me back nearly worked but was left a bit too far back for the finish Was totally peed in the points race was well behind the front riders and was totally surprised the gun went so threw the rattle out the pram and moaned at the starter I asked for a definition of bunching up which wasn't given Really need to shed a few pounds and train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Not too bad in the A's, it was very fast but the training is paying off and sitting in at high speed is getting easier along with putting in the big accelerations. About 7th in both the first two scratch races, some nice acceleration to get third and fifth in the first two sprints in the points and then it was game over, but I was happy with doubling my A points total from before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin McPhee Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Enjoyable night at the track. A larger than normal group of C's meant done good racing. Felt good in the scratch but got caught too far up the track and wasted a lot oc energy. Was moving up when possible and finished mid bunch. Had to make too many big efforts as a result of being too near the back. Managed to learn a bit from this for the points race and conserved energy put a dig in for the last sprint and may have got 3rd. Legs knackered for the devil and was boxed on on about 10 the lap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EPCC Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Picked the rattle up and placed it back in the pram . Went to the gym and destroyed my legs après battered myself with a big stick I now feel purged and a bit sore KennyS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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